FIGHTER – BirdStrike Flameout Eject Crash
f14 f16 f18 eagle hornet bird strike birdstrike flame out flameout eject crash bae hawk goshawk ramstein mig accident sonic sound speed jet fighter aircraft air airplane plane airliner boeing airbus wingstrike stall aeroplane miss crosswind sound speed barrier cockpit black box voice hud display airshow
Duration : 0:1:26
Tags: accident, bird, birdstrike, crash, eagle, eject, F14, f16, f18, fight, flame, flameout, hornet, jet, out, sonic, sound, Speed, strike
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
You are no expert …
You are no expert yet you feel qualified to comment on how the F-16 handles during engine-off operation?
Well how about this: get the Operators Manual before you comment. I’ve referenced it up there in an other post (and he suddenly didn’t feel confident in responding to me, even in PM, once I read verse from the pilot’s manual of the aircraft
But you live on in your own little world if you want. It’s okey. I understad.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
The little video of …
The little video of the F16 you see at 0:08 is recorded at an airshow at Volkel AFB, The Netherlands, in 2007. The bird strike happened right after take off and the plane landed immediately without any problems.
If you search on youtube for “volkel bird strike” you find plenty videos about it.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
You’re comments are …
You’re comments are really embarrassing to read. I’m no expert but you know very little. Just stop ay.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
What you need to …
What you need to note is that people here have been saying that it doesn’t glide at all. Note that dieterlino’s passenger aircraft would be equally boned in that situation (crossref the American Airways Hudson “landing”).
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I haven’t said it …
I haven’t said it glides “fine”. (Actually the F-16 has a glide ratio of 1:5, which is bad compared to planes specifically built for it and marginally better than the space shuttle (1:3).)
What I have said is that it glides.
dieterlino was saying that it’s “unstable at low speeds” and “cannot cruise at the same low speeds” which is simply irrelevant. If you are at 10k feet you moderate your speed to 245 knots and have 9nm to find an emergency landing site.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I can’t help but …
I can’t help but doubt you’re a professional pilot. You are trying to make a point that the jet glides fine and then you state a 4500fpm loss as an argument?
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
While y’all are …
While y’all are hissy-fitting over the technicalities… I’ll point out like another viewer did that the HUD vid is not from an F-16. It is from a T-45C Goshawk in Meridian if I recall correctly.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Well, technically …
Well, technically correct, since he had no altitude, but with gears retracted an F-16 glides 9 nautical miles from 10k feet, as long as the best glide speed of 245 knots is maintained. (Add velocity if you have stores.) All you need is sufficient altitude to maintain that 245 knot glide to a suitable landing site.
Obviously, right after takeoff like here you don’t have that luxury.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Note no note of …
Note no note of ejection requirement.
I will PM you a link to video documentation of an engine-out landing, since Youtube doesn’t allow posting of links in the comments.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Air Force …
Air Force Instruction 11-2F-16, volume 3, page 41 (section 7,4, Air Aborts)
7.4.2. Aborting aircraft with an emergency condition will be escorted to the field of intended landing. [...]
7.4.3. The mission will be aborted, regardless of apparent damage or subsequent normal operation, for any of the following:
7.4.3.1. Birdstrike/Foreign Object Damage.
[...]
7.4.3.4. Engine flameout/stagnation or shutdown.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Ah, so somehow …
Ah, so somehow aerodynamics ceases to exist when the engine is out?
L=½pv²ACl
I don’t see anything in that equation that cancels lift because the engine is out. If you have the velocity, you have the lift. The issue is that the F-16 is bad at keeping velocity. And I repeat: the F-16 has been succesfully recovered on a gliding approach.
I, if you want to talk badges, is talking to you as an actual PILOT, not a mechanic. And I’m telling you that all aircraft glide. Question is for how long.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
You really have no …
You really have no idea what you’re talking about. Whats awesome about people like you is the more they talk, the more
I can tell you as a SIX year Air Force enlistee who’s AFSC, thats Air Force Specialty Code, 2a651a, Jet Propulsion Specialist or Jet Engine Mechanic, that when a F-16 looses its GE F110 to a bird strike, it doesn’t glide…
In fact, it glides like a 30million dollar yard dart. But hey, you can argue all you want. Anybody that’s worked them or flown them knows the facts Jack
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Incorrect. All …
Incorrect. All aircraft will glide – even helicopters. F-16’s specifically have done emergency engine-out landings even at night, in baghdad, onto a Taxiway (since the runway didn’t have operational lights).
What you need is sufficient speed and altitude however, which you won’t have immediately after takeoff.
Interesting factoid is that the worst glider in the world is the Space Shuttle with a 1:3 ratio. That’s even worse than an autorotating helicopter.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
The in-plane …
The in-plane footage is not from the same aircraft or event as the one seen from the outside. The weather is different, and the in-plane video was taken from a BAe Hawk, iirc.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
What would I do in …
What would I do in that situation? Well since I am not a pilot, the first thing I would probably do is wet myself.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
That bird just shot …
That bird just shot down more f16’s than the entire iraqi and afghani airforces since 2001.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
this video the best …
this video the best !i want more
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
That’s probably …
That’s probably exactly what you’d have to do. lol.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Did’nt they have …
Did’nt they have any booster cables for a restart, just kidding both the piolets sounded calm and professional, they did what they could do.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
there is no way to …
there is no way to fly a fighter jet with no engine… these are not designed to glide.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
cool video
cool video
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
реально было …
реально было вытянуть….
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Notice the nose …
Notice the nose down momentum when they eject. Pretty strong forces I guess from two ejection seats…
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
It’s the Canadian …
It’s the Canadian Forces.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
There was no …
There was no attempt for an immediate relight (IR). The order was given by the instructor pilot but the instruction was that which is used for the CT-114 Tutor and the student pilot did not understand and took no action in this respect.