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25 Responses to “Running Raw: Tim VanOrden on supplement use”
Tim I love it. The … Tim I love it. The SYMPHONY of nutrients – the out-dated term “synergy” comes to mind. I have not taken ANY supplements for 25 years– I do not eat engines. You are not speaking on deaf ears. My clients get it. I get it. Anyone who goes totally raw gets it. Ahhh but that dreaded CHANGE factor– that is the only thing that should be encapsulated- the willingness to change– it should be given in injection form to all people!
So what you’re telling me is that if I eat 5-6 small meals everyday being a mixure of: chicken breast, tuna, rice, sweet potato, veg, oats, water, bananas, creatine/protein shakes and 2-4 litres of water, Im heading for a slow and painful death.
To ACEBAKER911:
… To ACEBAKER911:
When you’re trying to cram down 5-6 balanced meals a day, taking a protein and creatine shake after a hard workout is just easier.
You how easy it is to write “Eat correctly, and you wont need supplements” but to do it is a completely different thing.
Coleman, Cutler … Coleman, Cutler and many others will be Probably be Dead by the time they are 65.
If they do happen to Live past 65 , they will be very aged, Diseased and in alot of Pain.
The Diets that typical Bodybuilders eat are very destructive to the body on a physiological Level.
the Only reason they get away with it is they are relatively Young. Feed that kind of Diet to an older person with a Disease and they’ll be dead in 2 weeks.
Take supplements … Take supplements away from Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler and others , and lets see if they think its bulk. They DO help us . Grow bigger, stronger and recover faster .
Better than … Better than VanOrden. Fruit is a good source of carbohydrates as a general rule. Talking about calorific intake is outdated to be honest. The body only recognizes nutrients. 100 cals of protein will not have the same effect on the body as 100 cals fat. He can claim he’s elite but unless he’s beating the very best, he isn’t entitled to do so. Ignoring research showing supplements taken at the correct time improves performance is naive at best. Good point about the protein on ‘protein deficient?’.
Think he may have … Think he may have oversimplified things there…. Interesting how he considers himself an athlete and yet appears to know nothing about how an effective supplementation programme can affect performance. Plus he’s funny looking.
In this episode of the Running Raw Project: While speaking in Detroit, Tim VanOrden shares his views on supplement use.
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Ace
I stopped …
Ace
I stopped taking them 30 years ago. God bless David W- all I can say is, “Whatever”
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Chris
What is your …
Chris
What is your Opinion of Raw guys like DAVID WOLFE who advocate and encourage Huge supplement use ?
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Tim I love it. The …
Tim I love it. The SYMPHONY of nutrients – the out-dated term “synergy” comes to mind. I have not taken ANY supplements for 25 years– I do not eat engines. You are not speaking on deaf ears. My clients get it. I get it. Anyone who goes totally raw gets it. Ahhh but that dreaded CHANGE factor– that is the only thing that should be encapsulated- the willingness to change– it should be given in injection form to all people!
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
wanna do ALOT …
wanna do ALOT better ?
Eat 100 % Raw Vegan
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Oh, I also …
Oh, I also sometimes eat cottage cheese .
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
To ACEBAKER911:
…
To ACEBAKER911:
So what you’re telling me is that if I eat 5-6 small meals everyday being a mixure of: chicken breast, tuna, rice, sweet potato, veg, oats, water, bananas, creatine/protein shakes and 2-4 litres of water, Im heading for a slow and painful death.
Is that what you’re saying? Please be so!
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Dont eat like a …
Dont eat like a Body builder, they are Morons !
Eat for Strength, Health, and Vibrant appearance and energy with a long disease free life
Sure you’ll get Strong eating a Body builders diet, but that type of diet is 1 sided, other than strength, its all downhill
That diet will severely age you prematurely and wear out your Organs and tissues and you’ll be diseased in alot of Pain, or dead by age 60
Not a smart way to eat
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
To ACEBAKER911:
…
To ACEBAKER911:
When you’re trying to cram down 5-6 balanced meals a day, taking a protein and creatine shake after a hard workout is just easier.
You how easy it is to write “Eat correctly, and you wont need supplements” but to do it is a completely different thing.
All the best !
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Eat correctly, and …
Eat correctly, and you wont need supplements
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Coleman, Cutler …
Coleman, Cutler and many others will be Probably be Dead by the time they are 65.
If they do happen to Live past 65 , they will be very aged, Diseased and in alot of Pain.
The Diets that typical Bodybuilders eat are very destructive to the body on a physiological Level.
the Only reason they get away with it is they are relatively Young. Feed that kind of Diet to an older person with a Disease and they’ll be dead in 2 weeks.
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
… ronnie coleman. …
… ronnie coleman… no steroids?
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
But I havn’t taken …
But I havn’t taken steroids ?
So does that not make me a bodybuilder?
A bit ignorant to say all bodybuilders take roids ?
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
I think he is …
I think he is talking to bro but bodybuilders take steroids, so your talking 2
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Take supplements …
Take supplements away from Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler and others , and lets see if they think its bulk. They DO help us . Grow bigger, stronger and recover faster .
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Better than …
Better than VanOrden. Fruit is a good source of carbohydrates as a general rule. Talking about calorific intake is outdated to be honest. The body only recognizes nutrients. 100 cals of protein will not have the same effect on the body as 100 cals fat. He can claim he’s elite but unless he’s beating the very best, he isn’t entitled to do so. Ignoring research showing supplements taken at the correct time improves performance is naive at best. Good point about the protein on ‘protein deficient?’.
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Just type in the …
Just type in the search
PRIMAL DIET IS FOR FREAKS
and his videos will show up
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
check out the …
check out the videos of another Raw Vegan Athlete on here, DURIAN RIDER
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Was only really …
Was only really concerned with athletes to be honest. Agree with you.
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Are supplements …
Are supplements needed to achieve an excellent high level of Health ? NO
But can they be an advantage and useful in certain situations and conditions if someone has the extra money to afford their high cost ?
Yea probably
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
e3live algae
…
e3live algae
Vitamineral Green
google them
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Think he may have …
Think he may have oversimplified things there…. Interesting how he considers himself an athlete and yet appears to know nothing about how an effective supplementation programme can affect performance. Plus he’s funny looking.
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
spirulina
spirulina
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Without supplements …
Without supplements how do you prevent pernicious anemia, caused by vitamin B12 deficiency?
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
NO supplements, …
NO supplements, you dont need them to be healthy
all you have to do is make sure you eat 100 percent Organic with ALOT of greens, and you’ll be fine
August 20th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Humans are …
Humans are naturally Organic Raw Vegans